Anger and Thoughts

Rathin Mandal, 30th May 2013

Hare Krishna,

Please accept my humble obeisances,
All glories to Srila Gurudeva and Gurumataji,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

There are sometimes situation when there is a sudden surge of anger. And in that condition things go completely wrong.
Or there are circumstances when some thoughts just get into mind and they keep on going in circle and circle. And it becomes difficult to get them out of mind.

If I understand these correctly, these are only sign of mode of ignorance.
How should one control this kind of material mood swing.

your Servant
Rathin
Sanil Kumar, 30th May 2013

Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
Please accept my humble obeisances
All glories to Srila Gurudeva

Yes Prabhuji, It is due to lack of knowledge.  This is what I understood from the following verse.

BG 4.36
api ced asi päpebhyaù
sarvebhyaù päpa-kåt-tamaù
sarvaà jïäna-plavenaiva
våjinaà santariñyasi
TRANSLATION

Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be able to cross over the ocean of miseries.

PURPORT

Proper understanding of one’s constitutional position in relationship to Krishna is so nice that it can at once lift one from the struggle for existence which goes on in the ocean of nescience. This material world is sometimes regarded as an ocean of nescience and sometimes as a blazing forest. In the ocean, however expert a swimmer one may be, the struggle for existence is very severe. If someone comes forward and lifts the struggling swimmer from the ocean, he is the greatest savior. Perfect knowledge, received from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the path of liberation. The boat of Krishna consciousness is very simple, but at the same time the most sublime.

In a recent Thought of the day, Srila Gurudeva was answering to a question that – let these kind of thoughts and worries come and go, we need not bother much, we must continue our Krishna Conscious activities without hindrance.

your servant
Sanil kumar
Mahabhagavat Das SDA, 31st May 2013

Srila Gurudeva answered this question on a lecture available on the CD, I think question was asked by Bhakta Virendra and the answer is very nice. Check out Lecture number 25 on the CD 🙂 If someone does not have the CD, then let us know, we will figure out a way to get the CD to you., it has 30 wonderful lectures.

Generally, try to get into spiritual vibration, that is the only solution to get out of the rut of material vibration… like read, chant, hear someone else read, read together, listen to a class, something of that kind helps.

Sincerely,
Mahabhagavat Das
Bhakta Sunil, 02nd June 2013

Hare Krishna to all!

Dear Rathin Prabhu

I have been reading your posts since many days
You have shared a lot of nectar of transcendental knowledge here

So this question is an opportunity to associate with you

Q.) There are sometimes situation when there is a sudden surge of anger. And in that condition things go completely wrong.
Anger cannot be totally stopped but controlled and utilized in service of Lord Krishna as Hanuman did for “Lord Krishna’s avtaar as
Lord Rama”.  As a spontaneous reaction in heat of situation , with agitation of mind anger comes out but if it is for wrong reasons and not controlled then one feels consciousness has got degraded and dejected which I guess is what you imply by “And in that condition things go completely wrong.”

But as one advances in devotional practice and learns from senior and pure devotees one better reacts to anger provoking situations. I understand it requires and demands lot of self-determination but”Perseverance furthers”.

If anger is not required one curls in with the emotions of anger and mind comes out of topic of anger. One can chant intensely the mahamantra and with each moment the anger heat dips and dips until after some time you feel peaceful and relaxed. So the situation acts as an opportunity to chant the mahamantra and one furthers in self-cleansing process.

The processes of trying divert mind from topic of anger to chanting helps not only to control anger but also helps to improve chanting. Thus one gets double benefit.

If one does not further react to the provoking situation then gradually but surely one gets over the state of mind.

Incorrect anger can be said to be an occasional show of worldiness. But it is said that if one is on the right path then an occasional show of worldliness is forgiven and one gradually but surely reaches pure devotional stage

This process as mentioned is for anger when it should be avoided.

But if anger is for correct reason and can be utilized in service of Lord then with anger one serves the Lord as when getting angry
towards one who blasphemes Lord or His Devotees

Q.) Or there are circumstances when some thoughts just get into mind and they keep on going in circle and circle. And it becomes difficult to get them out of mind.
Few days earlier a similar topic with it’s answer has been discussed in Ultimate Self-Realization E-mail Course as copied and pasted below.
I understand that one should not react to negative thoughts and with time the thoughts automatically go away

Answers by Citing the Vedic Version:
Question: How to Conquer Mental Distractions?

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Thank you for opening my eyes through your Ultimate Self Realization Course with the dailythoughts and questions and answers. I really need your help to progress in Krishna consciousness, which I am very determined about.

I am chanting about 6 rounds of the Hare Krishna maha mantra every morning, have started offering food to Krishna, reading Srila Prabhupada’s books almost every night, listening to your lectures CD, associating with devotees, thinking of Krishna as much as possible during the day, etc. But still at times (sometimes even during chanting), some really sinful thoughts/unwanted fears or distractions come to my mind which I immediately realize as bad and try to stop and instead focus my mind on the maha mantra or Radha Shyamasundar’s form. Please advise me how I can overcome these miserable mental distractions. Should I just ignore the nonsensicalthoughts every time they come up, avoid contemplating them and beg Krishna’s mercy every time that happens?  How to get free from them?

I am completely dependent on your mercy. Please help me and bless me.

Your undeserving servant,
M.
Answer: Ignore Them Like an Unwanted Guest

Don’t be disturbed by the sinful thoughts by thinking and/or feeling that you must act on them. Just as they came flowing into your mind unimpeded, you should allow them maintain their flowing momentum and unimpededly flow out of your mind, just as by ignoring an unwanted guest he will eventually go away.

Sankarshan Das Adhikari

Hope this helps

Regards,
Sunil
Rathin Mandal, 04th June 2013

Hare Krishna,

Please accept my humble obeisances,
All glories to Srila Gurudeva and Gurumataji,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thank you very much Sanil Prabhu, Sunil Prabhu and Mahabhagavat Prabhu for guidance. It do happens that I end up doing things incorrectly.

Sanil Prabhu and Sunil Prabhu I have often seen you referring wonderfully with the quote from Gurudeva. How do you do that? I am so sinful that I do not even remember what was yesterday’s quote.

Mahabhagavat Prabhu, I am surely hear lecture 25 again and present my understanding.

your servant
Rathin

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